Using Wikisource and Wikibooks for text-commentary in schools

Dear fellow Wikimedians,

In our education system making text commentary is an important part of the education process, specially at High School. Students are given a closed set of texts during the course, and they need to make comments on them: give context, explain what is said there and link to other historical events. Using Wikimedia for this process is a vision I have, and I’m thinking on a combination of Wikisource for the texts and Wikibooks for the text comments. Does anyone have any experience with this or something similar?

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Technically, we can insert a template in any given Wikisource text to create a button to Wikibooks.

For example: https://eu.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title={{urlencode:{{PAGENAME}}/comment/{{REVISIONUSER}}}}&veaction=edit

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@Theklan, I think you might want to talk to User:Malan88, who has created a project called anno.wiki for the purpose of attaching notes to text. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)/Archive_62#Advice_for_new_wiki_project_for_literature,_not_affiliated_with_Wikipedia for more information.

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Thanks @Whatamidoing-WMF! This is really interesting but it is not the same case, as annotations are not a full text-commentary. It seems that in English you don’t use text-commentary with the same meaning.

It is a class of essay in which you make comments about a historical or literary text, trying to make sense of it, explaining what is written and what is talking about. Also, in literary texts, you may comment about the literature figures they have.

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Maybe Wikiversity is appropiate?

It could be, but Wikiversity is available in a very small amount of languages.

Technically, we can insert a template in any given Wikisource text to create a button to Wikibooks.
For example: https://eu.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title={{urlencode:{{PAGENAME}}/comment/{{REVISIONUSER}}}}&veaction=edit

I know this was just an example, but if you’re aiming to have a quick link from Wikisource to any reader’s “comment” subpage on Wikibooks then this wouldn’t work. The REVISIONUSER magic word is “The username of the user who made the most recent edit to the page, or the current user when previewing an edit.”

More generally, this sort of thing does sound like a better fit for Wikiversity than Wikibooks. Could you look at using https://beta.wikiversity.org maybe?

So, it can be gadget.

True! I was getting good results BUT because I was the last editor. Isn’t there a way to accomplish this using magicwords?

Not with magic words, I think, but as @Wargo says, a gadget could do it.

I don’t konow wich is the right solution, but I’m really interesting in any tool we can arrange for using in learning process at school. I made my young students work hard on vikidia, wikiversity, wikibooks and wikivoyage in the last few years. I’m testing dashboard and eventmetrics to monitor the learning works of my pupils. I’m reading you with big interest.

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Can we work on this somehow, @Wargo?

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